For the text of the Round Robin on issues of concern to these institutions, which was distributed via the Big Heads electronic discussion list in the weeks prior to the New Orleans meeting see http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~ulcjh/bh198rr.html
Mike Bruer (NYPL) said he had been asked by Wendy Thomas,
editor of Microform & Imaging Review, to write an article on
digital preservation. Among the points he makes are: There is an unseemly
rush to digital imaging at the expense of a more balanced approach to
preservation (Some comments he has heard: "Digital imaging is too
important to be left to preservationists!" "Digital Imaging is about
access." as though that were not what preservation was all about.) He
holds that digital imaging is a preservation tool, one that is as integral
to library services as are cataloging and reference, it is not an end in
itself.
Judy Nadler (University of Chicago): asked why he feels
there is not a balanced preservation program?
Mike Bruer: It is not that there are NO balanced
preservation programs, but that balanced preservation programs are being
compromised by (among other things) the fact that money is available for
digital imaging but not for other preservation activities.
Christian M. Boissonnas (Cornell): How many institutions
have money for preservation in their regular budgets instead of depending
on special resources?
Mike Bruer: That is the fundamental problem: too many
institutions do not allocate ordinary budgetary funds to ordinary
preservation activities (at least not nearly enough is allocated). The
tendency is to treat preservation differently from acquisitions or
cataloging. A case in point: since the 80s at NYPL money has been
available for "special projects" which included cleaning of the
collection. As special project funding dried up so did the money for
cleaning which should be a regular part of the preservation activities.
Bob Wolven (Columbia): The importance of crafting the
balance is something we need to monitor. Preservation microfilming has a
well developed management infrastructure which is lacking for the Digital
Imaging projects.
Duane Arenales (NLM): said that NLM has had an
institutional preservation program for years. Digital Imaging, while
exciting, will require even more funds. With print we have a choice of
preservation means. With electronic publications the problems will be
much greater.
Catherine Tierney (Stanford): As individuals we have tracked
these issues as part of the library community but it is difficult to keep
track of what various organizations, inside and outside of the library
community, are doing. Can Big Heads as a group track the issues and where
they are going?
Roxanne Sellberg said that the Northwestern program, which
is not part of Technical Services, includes a wide variety of programs.
She observed that digitization projects seem to present more collection
building issues than other types of preservation activities in the past.
Judith Nadler (University of Chicago): As at Northwestern,
preservation at Chicago is not part of Technical Services (nor part of
Collection Development.) It is a separate program with both internal and
external sources of funding. An Administrative Committee discusses
budgetary considerations for library programs, including the preservation
program.
Sharon Clark: The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
has an integrated and collaborative preservation program.
Digitization has not matured yet; it comes from a specialization outside
of librarianship. She is concerned with quality control; it is important
to tap the real expertise that is outside of the library community.
Lee Leighton: The University of California at Berkeley has
a well-established preservation program which is almost entirely
externally funded.
John Lubans: Duke has no formal preservation program,
however the establishment of one is seen as a key need in their strategic
planning. He referred to a German study ("Digitization as a method of
preservation:" Final report of a working group of the Deutsche
Forschungsgemeinschaft (German Research Association) by Hartmut Weber and
Marianne Dorr. Washington, D.C. : Committee on Preservation and Access,
October 1997 [OCLC record number 37924067]) on digitization as a means of
access. It concluded that microfilm is the preferred medium for storage
while digitization is preferred for document delivery.
Brian Schottlaender said that UCLA had just eliminated its
preservation unit as part of a budget cut. The quo was not cost efficient
for the quid provided.
Brian is not convinced that having others deal with a problem is
unsatisfactory, AS LONG AS WE ARE INVOLVED. The costs of the care and
feeding of print and microfilm collections will be nothing compared to the
costs involved in preserving digital collections. No-one is doing anything
about the RLG report on this topic.
Bob Wolven (Columbia) said that a place where we can put our
efforts is the Digital Library Federation where Don Waters now is.
Beacher Wiggins (LC): At the Library of Congress,
preservation activities are administratively combined in the service unit,
i.e., department, that has responsibility for technical services.
Preservation is recognized in its own right by being designated a separate
directorate. The Preservation Directorate plays a vital role in LC's
approach to preservation in its various manifestations. Certainly,
digital imaging is not the primary focus; it is one among several,
including microfilming, binding, phased conservation, research and
testing, and deacidification.
There is the separate National Digital Library initiative that
involves digitizing various elements of the Library's collections for
sharing our collections beyond the Library. The Preservation Directorate
interfaces with these digitization activities.
Beth Warner (University of Michigan) emphasized the
importance of the long term issues of standardization, including standards
for the bibliographic access of digital materials.
Mike Bruer (NYPL): While there are some balanced
preservation programs there are many others that are not and the rush to
digital imaging is a symptom of that. The NEH Brittle Books program is an
example of this imbalance. Although there is no denying that the Brittle
Books program is dealing with an important issue, nevertheless many
institutions are finding that other reformatting needs are going begging
because the NEH funding does not include them in its plan. There is
relative ease in getting funds for "sexy" programs like digital imaging.
We should not need to attract funds for mainstream library activities,
including preservation. We need to solve the problems and fund the
solutions ourselves, rather than depend on others outside librarianship.
This is not to deny that others are doing useful work, but we need to
focus on providing routine preservation support from internal sources and
to strive harder to establish and maintain truly balanced programs.
Judith Nadler (Chicago) said that it was her impression that PCC
was generally considered a success. She wondered how those who didn't
think so defined success.
Christian Boissonnas (Cornell): If a library hasn't become a BIBCO
participant how can it say it is truly participating in PCC?
Arno Kastner said that NYU is not a BIBCO member. He is not yet
sure that it is a worthwhile investment. He feels that it adds another
level of cataloging management and he is yet to be convinced that it will
increase productivity.
Jane Ouderkirk (Harvard) said that the PCC program needs to be
flexible enough to support efficient workflows within its member
libraries, particularly as it relates to authority work. If we support
another program that suffocates under its own weight the way the NCCP did,
THEN we should lose our jobs.
Joan Swanekamp (Yale): If we can accept PCC records as we do
LC, it will make a difference. Many of us are still re-working them.
Judith Nadler (University of Chicago): The benefit of the PCC
program will occur if we can accept other libraries' cataloging. At
Chicago they do not contribute everything. One problem is that local
catalogers may not understand how other libraries use these records; they
use BIBCO records pretty much as they do non-BIBCO ones and assume other
libraries do as well. They need to understand how BIBCO records differ
from other shared cataloging records. We need to have more information on
the impact that use of BIBCO records has on local workflows.
Duane Arenales (NLM):
Brian Schottlaender said that UCLA is increasing the amount of
triage by which materials are streamed in one direction or other with the
aim of sending more material to Rapid Cataloging. Public Services are
providing evidence of the value of PCC records; core records are providing
sufficient for the end users. Public Services prefer receiving more
records, at core level, than fewer but full records. The rare exceptions
are in special formats.
Christian Boissonnas (Cornell): We don't have a whole lot of
facts, just some facts and some impressions after almost one full year of
core level cataloging. 72% of our original cataloging meets PCC standards,
and 67% of that is at the core level. Cornell has retrained staff to
catalog digital materials.
Rhoda Kesselman (Princeton) is authorities librarian there.
Princeton was one of the earliest NACO contributors and is still the
largest contributor outside of LC. But they are not a BIBCO library
because of some problems they have with the technical requirements. At the
present time it would be too burdensome for them to meet the requirement
that all series decisions match those of LC since they have local series
authority records in their local system, and many of their series
decisions have historically differed from those of LC.
Sally Sinn (NAL): There is more to PCC than BIBCO. In
addition to building a national resource of shared bibliographic and
authority records, the Program, through the work of its operations and
standing committees has influenced bibliographic standards development and
the development of automated solutions and improvements, as well as
providing outreach and training to catalogers.
Brian Schottlaender (UCLA): Those of us who are committed to the
BIBCO portion of PCC are moving more slowly than we had expected because
many of our catalogers are not comfortable doing NACO work.
Mike Kaplan (Indiana): While we have discussed more and
better, one of things we haven't addressed is faster. Timeliness is a
crucial factor if we want to use BIBCO records in copy cataloging. The
number and amount of use of BIBCO records has to be a measure for the
value of the PCC program.
Arno Kastner (NYU): What are our cataloging departments
doing with BIBCO records? Are they being sent along a fast track? Are we
evaluating them? Or have we created another category to evaluate?
Bob Wolven (Columbia): It doesn't make much difference
because we haven't made much of a study of copy cataloging records as a
whole.
Rhoda Kesselman: Princeton has benefitted from the NACO program.
They don't have to do any authority work on LC copy (which forms more than
half of their copy cataloging) except verify series against their local
decisions. Yet they can still have consistent authority control since
they catalog against the same authority file as LC. Their NACO statistics
have dropped slightly while their cataloging statistics have been going up
because more and more libraries are contributing authority records through
NACO.
Roxanne Sellberg (Northwestern): In response to an earlier
question about why PCC records are any better than other records available
for copy cataloging, Sellberg emphasized that BIBCO records have authority
records for every heading in a national database. That makes those BIBCO
records easier to use and maintain, either by local staff effort or
through the services of an authority control vendor.
Bob Wolven (Columbia) distributed two handouts related to
the Columbia University Master Metadata File Project. There will be
an ALCTS/LITA institute on metadata at Georgetown University in May 1998
(http://www.ala.org/alcts/events/institutes/metadata.html).
The whole Dublin Core movement started out as an effort to identify a
set of core elements needed to identify electronic resources and make them
available. It was never intended to be a replacement for library
cataloging. Based on the recognition that the World-Wide-Web was growing
faster than libraries could deal with, it was designed to allow various
web engines to discover and retrieve documents.
Further elaboration of the Dublin Core occurred at later meetings.
Rights and permissions metadata information resulted from the 2nd Dublin
Core conference (the so-called "Warwick stage"). Syntax (how to encode
data elements in some useable scheme) followed.
Metadata work at Columbia. Columbia is taking a somewhat
different approach from the Dublin Core. They are concentrating on
developing an SQL database (Columbia Master Metadata File) but are not yet
using the Dublin Core because the projects they were dealing with required
treatment in ways that had not yet been developed as part of the Dublin
Core at the time they had started. They needed to bring in structural and
administrative metadata and they were dealing with projects over which
they had very little control.
Bob concluded by saying he hopes there will be some congruence
between these two approaches.
John Lubans (Duke) referred to the Mellon-funded CIAO
(Columbia International Affairs Online) initiative from the Columbia
University Press. This is a conglomerate of over 50 international affairs
societies with plans to publish preprints, ejournals, books, as well as
providing sites for reader feedback. They hope to try many different
things and see how they work. The question for research libraries is how
will we facilitate access to sources like this. Lincoln Ellis is the
Editor in Chief and he is hoping that libraries will begin to use the URLs
he is providing for each item. [later insertion: To see CIAO on the web,
look at http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cup/ciaopromo/ There is also an
informative article on "Redefining Scholarship in Cyberspace" on p. 18 of
the most recent (December 1997?) issue of the YPB publication: "Yankee
Newsletter", that explains CIAO and what it is trying to do.]
Judith Nadler (U of Chicago): Who should be involved?
Bob Wolven (Columbia): The partners are very wide-spread: Library
administrators, academic computer centers, content providers, commercial
sector.
Lee Leighton (Berkeley) said he had attended the Helsinki
meeting on the Dublin Core [Oct. 6-8, 1997]. He had been interested in
watching the political process involved in seeing another standard
developing, one that was looking for a place to be legitimized. ALA will
need to take it into account.
Brian Schottlaender (UCLA) said he was glad to hear that catalogers
were present at Helsinki. He has heard the Dublin Core referred to as CIP
for digital data and wondered how it will be used.
Lee Leighton (Berkeley): Libraries have MARC which is more
elaborate but doesn't do as well as the Dublin Core with showing
relationships.
Brian Schottlaender (UCLA) said he wonders about the need to
massage input data before outputting into MARC or other outputs.
Bob Wolven (Columbia): Massaging is usually needed. The
process is not as transparent as the handout might make it appear.
Mike Bruer (NYPL) gave a historical perspective, describing
how it was forecast that various library functions would disappear because
of this and that. Despite changes in systems environments and new
technologies, nothing is going to wither away and disappear. One of the
lessons of technology is that almost everything "new" ends up as add-on,
not replacement.
Judith Nadler (U of Chicago): A good motto is to quickly assess
what is needed and to make yourself indispensable to doing it. Philosophy
and outlook are more important than skills; the latter can be taught. We
should focus on what we want to do rather than on how we have been doing
whatever we do.
Christian M. Boissonnas (Cornell): Whatever technical services
work looks like in the future it will be there and we should be the ones
to do it.
Catherine Tierney (Stanford): We need to get the best staff
and to apply the best business rigor in applying technology. We need to
balance business needs and the academic role of our institutions. She is
getting managers who can handle process even if their functions are
disappearing. Our core skills are that we handle details and process well;
we are still needed.
Mike Bruer (NYPL): Technology is just a tool; it isn't taking over
our work. We make use of it, not the other way around; it is not a threat
to our functioning. As far as change is concerned there is "nothing new
under the sun."
Rhoda Kesselman (Princeton): There is room in technical services
for developing the skills and standards necessary to adapt techniques for
bibliographic control to materials in digital form. There is work to be
done by Technical Services in organizing web-based materials and
presenting them to users in proper perspective, as they relate to the
total universe of library resources.
Arno Kastner (NYU): Things have changed and will continue to
change. Our business is processing and will continue to be so but will be
more on the level of metadata than on copy or even original cataloging for
books.
Christian M. Boissonnas (Cornell): We are not in the business of
processing but rather in the business of providing information to users.
Processing is just a part of that. The nature of library work is changing
in such a way that it requires us to change, to become less
departmentalized. The term "processing" is misleading; our work is much
more than that.
Joan Swanekamp (Yale): One of the things we need to do to ensure
that we have the right people in the right places is to recruit the right
people. Library school directors don't think of cataloging as an area
with a future.
Sharon Clark (Univ. of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana) said
she agreed with Joan. Pools for Technical Services positions are
noticeably smaller than those for public services positions. Illinois has
an aging staff; they are looking for people just starting their careers.
With new client-server based systems how they are serving their users
changes so much that training becomes a large part of their time. They
need to be pro-active in recruiting for technical services positions; they
also need to work with Public Services.
John Attig (Penn State): The earlier discussion of PCC focussed on
global issues. There needs to be, as a complement, a focus on more
specialized topics, e.g, a group of catalogers who are getting together to
produce faster, better.
Martin Joachim (Indiana): With BIBCO they find they need over
100,000 authority records to do their cataloging; they find existing
authority records for about 95%. They do NACO authority work for all
original cataloging; he urged others to do the same.
Robin Wendler (Harvard): Brian Schottlaender made a remark
about Dublin Core records serving as a form of CIP. Although envisioned
as a very general, universal data element set, to date the Dublin Core has
been implemented only in community-specific databases in ways which
stretch the semantics of the defined elements perhaps out of all
recognition. What we do not yet have is any proof of semantic
interoperability between different "pools" of Dublin Core data, which will
have to be demonstrated before Dublin Core data can be systematically
integrated into library processing as source data.
Sally Tseng (UC-Irvine) said she was fascinated by digitization.
The Dublin Core would be one way for us to provide a standard access to
Internet materials.
Ganga Dakshinamurti (University of Manitoba) agreed that Technical
Services will have to align itself with public services to determine what
users really need.
Christian Boissonnas (Cornell): When Cornell next hires it probably
will not be "just" a cataloger but rather someone who will be expected to
work on multiple professional activities. Some catalogers are already
doing this. They have taken on responsibilities in collection
development, the management of special projects, and for the Central
Technical Services website.
Brian Schottlaender (UCLA): ALCTS is concerned with the graying of
profession.
Catherine Tierney (Stanford): The investment in cataloging in BIBCO
is not insignificant. Expertise in our core Technical Services mission
will need to be balanced with expertise in reference and collection
development. We (technical services staff) have been rigorous in our
thinking; how rigorous are the reference staff, she wondered.
Ganga Dakshinamurti (University of Manitoba): We need forums in
which the two groups talk to each other and get a better understanding of
WHY we do the things we do and how does that relate to satisfying needs of
users, many of whom are searching the Internet in preference to searching
catalogs.
Mike Bruer (NYPL): As I said earlier, virtually nothing is new.
In the 1940s Frank Lundy's staff at the University of Nebraska was
concerned about over-specialization and instituted programs to cross-train
staff.
6. The meeting was adjourned at 12:30 p.m.
MINUTES
"What's bugging Mike?" Technical Services Leadership Issues
Preservation: Where is it all going? How
do we track
preservation issues? What is Technical Services' role in this
fundamental information issue? Big Heads actions to
take?
The Program for Cooperative
Cataloging (PCC):
What do we do to make it a success? What commitments must we make?
Big Head actions to take?
Catherine Tierney (Stanford): If we can't make PCC work, we
should all lose our jobs!
Other aspects that are new receiving attention:
2. c. Technical Services future: Five years out,
what's
Technical
Services going to look like? What's changed? Where are we on
the S-shaped organizational growth and decline curve? What's
the next "growth curve"? What are our core skills carried
forward, and what new skills must we acquire? Big Heads actions
steps?